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Margaritaville
Joined: 10 May 2006 Posts: 16 Location: Virginia
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Posted: Sat May 13, 2006 10:01 pm Post subject: Gymnasts and Coaches. |
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Does anybody think coaches should be a little slacker.I mean i love 2 work hard and i dont want 2 not do anything but i think they need to stop yelling!  |
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Katya
Joined: 05 Sep 2004 Posts: 27
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Posted: Sun May 14, 2006 4:37 pm Post subject: |
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If they will stop yelling, kids will stop to work hard 
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Levski
Joined: 14 Nov 2003 Posts: 949 Location: USA
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Posted: Sun May 14, 2006 5:11 pm Post subject: Hi |
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For most coaches that is the least favourite part. I personally hate having to yell just to get things moving, if i didn't have to yell it would be just great. I keep it don't to a minimal, but there are coaches who just do it cause they have no idea how to communicate.
Levski _________________ Valentin Uzunov
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acrobunny
Joined: 24 Apr 2006 Posts: 11
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Posted: Mon May 15, 2006 11:03 pm Post subject: |
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I'm with you Levski! I HATE yelling when I'm coaching. I don't see it as creating a very positive environment. Don't get me wrong - I yell if I have to, and some days, I could almost pull my hair out I get so cranky with the kids... I like to think I'm relatively patient and it takes a decent effort from the kids to peeve me enough to yell.... but the minute I do, they know they've gone too far. They seem to back off and behave instantly after that. I even give them a warning "ok guys, I'm gonna start yelling soon if blah blah ... don't make me do that"
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AussieGirl
Joined: 06 Sep 2005 Posts: 207
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Posted: Tue May 16, 2006 12:22 am Post subject: |
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| I think yelling only works if two things are in place. First of all it has to be in moderation. If you are yelling constantly everyone just tunes out. But, if you only yell when you have to it tends to work better. Secondly I think the opposite has to be there aswell. In contrast to the yelling there needs to be positive reinforcement and praise when they are working well. |
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TipGuy
Joined: 10 Jan 2003 Posts: 2441 Location: Marin County, California, USA
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Posted: Tue May 16, 2006 10:11 am Post subject: |
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Frankly, reactive yelling should never be necessary. If the structure and discipline in your program is in line things should never reach the level that yelling is required to bring things back in line. _________________ TipGuy
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Levski
Joined: 14 Nov 2003 Posts: 949 Location: USA
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Posted: Tue May 16, 2006 7:57 pm Post subject: Hello |
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I agree TipGuy..and for most part the program we have in place is great and does this. But there are times and you find yourself repeating the same stuff over and over again that just should not be happening. Things like when moving one section of the program to the other, there are people wondering around, making granny circles and starting to talk about what Jimmy did with the pencil at school today you know. Just stupid pointless irrelevant stuff. This is obviously a result of something going wrong in the machine so to speak. Things like, because we are a small club we mix older and younger gymnsat together and the younger can't help it but talk with the older, and so on. But also to an extent its NZ culture in a way.
Anyways i am strongly against yelling, but at times it does come in handy to line things up. Oh i want to distinguish between Yelling cuase you are talking across the room, from bad behaviour. Cuase i end up Yelling a lot across rooms cause i am dealing with 4-5 gymnast at different things and different levels and so on.
Anyways enough of me
Levski _________________ Valentin Uzunov
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TipGuy
Joined: 10 Jan 2003 Posts: 2441 Location: Marin County, California, USA
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Posted: Tue May 16, 2006 9:09 pm Post subject: |
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Yelling across a room to be heard is different. I was referring to yelling as discipline or out of frustration/anger. Yelling corrections is something I do all the time, but the tone is way different. I'm a pretty loud coach, but it's just projecting to be heard. I'd rather do that then spend the time walking across the gym.  _________________ TipGuy
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Coach Blair
Joined: 09 Jan 2003 Posts: 1492 Location: Bay area/Sacto
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Posted: Wed May 17, 2006 1:00 am Post subject: |
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I PROJECT my voice at times, because I can and sometimes don't wanna go all the way across the gym. Funny thing is I could never project my voice nearly as high singing. I'll have to thank some of my coaches way back when for that.
I try to never yell at the girls. It's more of a stern voice.
OTOH, with boy's I'm known to yell. Especially when they start rough-housing because well boys will be boys. Especially when they're screwing around and something bad is about to happen.
It's stopped a few really bad accidents because I could see that one boys' elbow was locked out and something bad was about to happen. That and the fact that one time one of those boy's was one of my the lil guys I'm grooming. Besides the fact that he was lil and the other kid was relatively twice the size of him.
Actually if anything at a few gyms, I would see a lot of yelling and derogatory stuff was generally done with a female coach to females or males to males.
As well, it's horrible sometimes in those Pop Warner or Competition cheer gyms. Quite often the cheer directors were soccer moms gone insane caring more about winning the next comp and getting the routine done than properly coaching. That would be the cheer coaches job who would just often look the other way since they were so low on the totem pole. I've come across a lot of girls who have quit comp cheer and gone back to rec gym because they said their coaches just yelled too much. Happy when they're doing great, demonic when they're messing up. Crazy world cheer is sometimes. Let's not even touch their safety record. _________________ Glorify strength. "It is only by becoming stronger that a man can realize his divinity." |
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