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gingpipe
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 Posted: Wed Mar 29, 2006 10:38 am Post subject: hop change |
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One of my girls got it into her head that these are the coolest things ever and really wants to learn one. I'd like her to work blind changes, so we've both agreed to work both, but I don't know much about them. I don't know if I've got the name right either (a hop in handstand to change to undergrip). I'm looking for any drills, and wondering how to spot them. Also, what is the benefit of doing these over blind changes?
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sbonham
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| Posted: Wed Mar 29, 2006 11:57 am Post subject: Re: hop change |
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Hey Ginger,
I'm assuming your talking about this being done from a giant- not a cast...
So this is a 1/2 turn (like a blind) but the hands are both airborne? That sounds like some of the warmup swings I used on highbar in college. I'd do hopping giants (as overgrip giant rises- pull and release- then land back in handstand and the same with 1/2 turns) Such fun! and very similar to something called a "Thomas Fling" (full twisting hop from back giant to back giant).
Hop turn to an undergrip, huh? That's cool.
Advantages:
1.) Lateral hand placement. Hands go where they are naturally positioned. Doesn't require a perfect pivot atop the turn arm.
2. It's Dynamic-- she's airborne.
3. Can be a Progression - can be used as a lead in for skills such as the California Hop (no twist hop to undergrip) or the previously mentioned 1/1 twisting "Fling"- I havn't seen this done since Kurt retired in the 80s.
Disadvantages:
1. More difficult. Requires more power- and really good hand/eye coordination.
2. Increased opportunities for stubbed fingers... and potential rib wracks.
3. ...??? probably more. The offshoot skills end in a dead-end pretty promptly. I can't envision a full-twisting fling to an undergrip! or a 1&1/2 twisting fling? But maybe...
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gingpipe
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| Posted: Wed Mar 29, 2006 4:38 pm Post subject: |
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| I didn't mean it to be a half turn, and did mean it to be out of a cast, but maybe it could be out of a giant. I guess it is the California hop. Sorry I wasn't more clear. The reason for undergrip is we are looking for ways to get into a front giant. |
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sbonham
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| Posted: Wed Mar 29, 2006 6:44 pm Post subject: |
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| gingpipe wrote: | | I didn't mean it to be a half turn, and did mean it to be out of a cast, but maybe it could be out of a giant. I guess it is the California hop. Sorry I wasn't more clear. The reason for undergrip is we are looking for ways to get into a front giant. |
Okay- Got'cha!
I call that a cast-hop. I'm not sure it has a FIG code name (or value).
A few thoughts about practicing this skill:
1. Have gymnast SIT and bounce on the bar- you can hold their feet to spot them... It is unbeliveable how much recoil is available on an uneven or p-bar rail, or highbar. You can literally bounce a foot or more in the air easily. They must learn to use the recoil of the bar WITH their arm/shoulder action. Most gymnasts do not get the full benefit. This drill can also be done on p-bars for stuzt, toss, and salto dismount work.
2. Don't worry about the grip switch initially- have them clap - clap twice - spread eagle - whatever. Make them go for height and NOT worry about the regrasp.
Here's an couple of animations. The cast hop- and the "Cal" hop. Click the image to run the animation.
Cast Hop
This could also be performed much like a hop pirouette on men's p-bars to an over OR an under grip. Cool! I haven't seen that used yet.
Cal (California) Hop
This skill is so delightful to perform. It too, can be practiced without the grip change- by opening the hands (where the wrist shift from hang to support normally occurs) and allowing the body to rise upward off the bar. You can clap here too if you like.
Another thought- what about using a simple kip-change to switch to undergrip?
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gingpipe
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| Posted: Thu Mar 30, 2006 9:44 pm Post subject: |
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Thanks for those animations!
I'm not understanding kip-change. Could you explain it a little more. Thanks. |
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sbonham
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| Posted: Fri Mar 31, 2006 10:26 am Post subject: |
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| gingpipe wrote: | | I'm not understanding kip-change. Could you explain it a little more. Thanks. |
Sure-
Here's another flipcard animation too (Full speed + Slow + a drill).
You must have a really powerful kip to do the kip change. It's better to have the open body type too-- don't pike at the hips- just chest pike. The kip swing MUST rise dramatically so that the hips are pressed against the bar while you are still under the bar prior to and during the sit up.
Practice it on a low bar that you can rock under with bent knees.
Good luck,
S
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