Skills Index
Beam(In the works)
High Bar
Floor
Vault
Parallel Bars
Pommel Horse
Rings
Uneven Bars
Conditioning
Definitions
Positions
Stretching
Articles
WOD

Home
Forums
GymnasticsLinks
Submit a drill!




Custom Search





DrillsAndSkills.com Forum Index

DrillsAndSkills.com
Gymnastics Tips, Drills and Graphics
 
 FAQFAQ   SearchSearch   MemberlistMemberlist   UsergroupsUsergroups   RegisterRegister 
 ProfileProfile   Log in to check your private messagesLog in to check your private messages   Log inLog in 

Gymnasts and Coaches.

 
Post new topic   Reply to topic    DrillsAndSkills.com Forum Index -> Coaching
View previous topic :: View next topic  
Author Message
Margaritaville



Joined: 10 May 2006
Posts: 16
Location: Virginia

PostPosted: Sat May 13, 2006 10:01 pm    Post subject: Gymnasts and Coaches. Reply with quote

Does anybody think coaches should be a little slacker.I mean i love 2 work hard and i dont want 2 not do anything but i think they need to stop yelling! Laughing
Back to top
View user's profile Send private message Send e-mail AIM Address
Katya



Joined: 05 Sep 2004
Posts: 27

PostPosted: Sun May 14, 2006 4:37 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

If they will stop yelling, kids will stop to work hard Laughing

Last edited by Katya on Sun May 14, 2006 8:37 pm; edited 1 time in total
Back to top
View user's profile Send private message
Levski



Joined: 14 Nov 2003
Posts: 949
Location: USA

PostPosted: Sun May 14, 2006 5:11 pm    Post subject: Hi Reply with quote

For most coaches that is the least favourite part. I personally hate having to yell just to get things moving, if i didn't have to yell it would be just great. I keep it don't to a minimal, but there are coaches who just do it cause they have no idea how to communicate.

Levski
_________________
Valentin Uzunov
The Gym Press
www.thegympress.net
Back to top
View user's profile Send private message MSN Messenger
acrobunny



Joined: 24 Apr 2006
Posts: 11

PostPosted: Mon May 15, 2006 11:03 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I'm with you Levski! I HATE yelling when I'm coaching. I don't see it as creating a very positive environment. Don't get me wrong - I yell if I have to, and some days, I could almost pull my hair out I get so cranky with the kids... I like to think I'm relatively patient and it takes a decent effort from the kids to peeve me enough to yell.... but the minute I do, they know they've gone too far. They seem to back off and behave instantly after that. I even give them a warning "ok guys, I'm gonna start yelling soon if blah blah ... don't make me do that"

Laughing
Back to top
View user's profile Send private message
AussieGirl



Joined: 06 Sep 2005
Posts: 207

PostPosted: Tue May 16, 2006 12:22 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I think yelling only works if two things are in place. First of all it has to be in moderation. If you are yelling constantly everyone just tunes out. But, if you only yell when you have to it tends to work better. Secondly I think the opposite has to be there aswell. In contrast to the yelling there needs to be positive reinforcement and praise when they are working well.
Back to top
View user's profile Send private message
TipGuy



Joined: 10 Jan 2003
Posts: 2441
Location: Marin County, California, USA

PostPosted: Tue May 16, 2006 10:11 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Frankly, reactive yelling should never be necessary. If the structure and discipline in your program is in line things should never reach the level that yelling is required to bring things back in line.
_________________
TipGuy
Webmaster DrillsAndSkills.com
Back to top
View user's profile Send private message Send e-mail Visit poster's website
Levski



Joined: 14 Nov 2003
Posts: 949
Location: USA

PostPosted: Tue May 16, 2006 7:57 pm    Post subject: Hello Reply with quote

I agree TipGuy..and for most part the program we have in place is great and does this. But there are times and you find yourself repeating the same stuff over and over again that just should not be happening. Things like when moving one section of the program to the other, there are people wondering around, making granny circles and starting to talk about what Jimmy did with the pencil at school today you know. Just stupid pointless irrelevant stuff. This is obviously a result of something going wrong in the machine so to speak. Things like, because we are a small club we mix older and younger gymnsat together and the younger can't help it but talk with the older, and so on. But also to an extent its NZ culture in a way.

Anyways i am strongly against yelling, but at times it does come in handy to line things up. Oh i want to distinguish between Yelling cuase you are talking across the room, from bad behaviour. Cuase i end up Yelling a lot across rooms cause i am dealing with 4-5 gymnast at different things and different levels and so on.

Anyways enough of me

Levski
_________________
Valentin Uzunov
The Gym Press
www.thegympress.net
Back to top
View user's profile Send private message MSN Messenger
TipGuy



Joined: 10 Jan 2003
Posts: 2441
Location: Marin County, California, USA

PostPosted: Tue May 16, 2006 9:09 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Yelling across a room to be heard is different. I was referring to yelling as discipline or out of frustration/anger. Yelling corrections is something I do all the time, but the tone is way different. I'm a pretty loud coach, but it's just projecting to be heard. I'd rather do that then spend the time walking across the gym. Smile
_________________
TipGuy
Webmaster DrillsAndSkills.com
Back to top
View user's profile Send private message Send e-mail Visit poster's website
Coach Blair



Joined: 09 Jan 2003
Posts: 1492
Location: Bay area/Sacto

PostPosted: Wed May 17, 2006 1:00 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I PROJECT my voice at times, because I can and sometimes don't wanna go all the way across the gym. Funny thing is I could never project my voice nearly as high singing. I'll have to thank some of my coaches way back when for that.
I try to never yell at the girls. It's more of a stern voice.

OTOH, with boy's I'm known to yell. Especially when they start rough-housing because well boys will be boys. Especially when they're screwing around and something bad is about to happen.
It's stopped a few really bad accidents because I could see that one boys' elbow was locked out and something bad was about to happen. That and the fact that one time one of those boy's was one of my the lil guys I'm grooming. Besides the fact that he was lil and the other kid was relatively twice the size of him.

Actually if anything at a few gyms, I would see a lot of yelling and derogatory stuff was generally done with a female coach to females or males to males.
As well, it's horrible sometimes in those Pop Warner or Competition cheer gyms. Quite often the cheer directors were soccer moms gone insane caring more about winning the next comp and getting the routine done than properly coaching. That would be the cheer coaches job who would just often look the other way since they were so low on the totem pole. I've come across a lot of girls who have quit comp cheer and gone back to rec gym because they said their coaches just yelled too much. Happy when they're doing great, demonic when they're messing up. Crazy world cheer is sometimes. Let's not even touch their safety record.
_________________
Glorify strength. "It is only by becoming stronger that a man can realize his divinity."
Back to top
View user's profile Send private message
Display posts from previous:   
Post new topic   Reply to topic    DrillsAndSkills.com Forum Index -> Coaching All times are GMT - 5 Hours
Page 1 of 1

 
Jump to:  
You cannot post new topics in this forum
You cannot reply to topics in this forum
You cannot edit your posts in this forum
You cannot delete your posts in this forum
You cannot vote in polls in this forum


Powered by phpBB © 2001, 2005 phpBB Group