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flexistraw



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PostPosted: Fri Nov 19, 2004 8:09 am    Post subject: Vault Reply with quote

What coaching points do people have when coaching a Yamashita Vault??

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PostPosted: Fri Nov 19, 2004 2:10 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I don't mean to be rude, but what's the point of teaching a Yamishita?
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PostPosted: Sat Nov 20, 2004 4:30 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

In the UK it is a set vault at Grade One. It is a pointless vault, and as it is harldy covered i wondered what points were good to look for when teaching it.

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PostPosted: Fri Jul 22, 2005 4:23 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I would say the most important point is to make sure once the gymnast has popped up off their hands off the vault, to leave their feet up high in the air and then bring their chest up to met the legs then open teh pike to stretched position before the feet even think about landing. i see this vault a lot in high school gymnastics and it is usually done incorrectly, they let their feet drop nd try to bring their chest down to their legs.
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CoachAmanda



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PostPosted: Mon Apr 03, 2006 4:17 am    Post subject: The Yamashita Pointless? Reply with quote

Teaching the Yamashita vault is not entirely pointless. In fact, I do not believe it to be pointless at all.

The Yamashita can (when taught properly to mature gymnasts):

-help to produce greater propulsion from the table
-provide a great alternative timer to set up for foward rotating vaults
-can provide a wonderful way to diversify an athlete's vaulting regimen and train air awareness for blind landings


...not to mention, the yamashita is a skill that has been almost lost due to its apparent "pointlessness". A yamashita is to this day still a very beautiful vault and to teach it is only handing down the legacy of our sport to our athletes.

Additionally, the bigger the "Bag of basics" an athlete has the more diverse and adaptable the athlete will be. I've heard a similar comment made about basic foward and backward rolls on beam, only to attend an enlightening seminar on the benefits that teaching these to our athletes have.

I don't mean to be rude but I find it an insult to write off the significance of any gymnastics skill pointless simply because it doesn't fit a coaches agenda. So what if it's not in style?
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PostPosted: Mon Apr 03, 2006 4:40 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I did a yamashita vault last year. It isn't too difficult, and the little kids in the gym always get a kick out of it! Haha
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Beam9.7



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PostPosted: Wed Apr 05, 2006 12:00 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

what the heck is a yamashita vault. at our gym we do handspring, tsuks, and yurchenkos. i have never heard of this vault. if you tell me about it i would love to get my coaches to teach it to me.
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PostPosted: Wed Apr 05, 2006 12:56 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

A Yamashita (aka Yami) is basically a handspring, but when your feet reach vertical you stop driving your heels and pike so you ride the postflight in a pike position to land.

It's not a heavily used vault because it does not develop into anything and actually can hinder a gymnasts progress on vault. It blunts the heel drive necessary for more advanced vaults.
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sbonham



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PostPosted: Wed Apr 05, 2006 8:51 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

The Yamashita vault is named for Haruhiro Yamashita of Japan's great 1964 Men's Olympic team. The vault closely resembles another skill - a pike front salto dismount from the parallel bars. Yamashita had incredible repulsion from the horse and made this simple skill (by today's standards) look exceedingly beautiful.

I feel that "one day" compulsory exercises will return to artictic gymnastics. When they do-- don't be surprised to see a Yami , or a Yami 1/2 twist appear as a vault. This is a difficult skill to do well - even if you consider it a "deadend" -- as many do.
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stella!



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PostPosted: Wed Apr 19, 2006 12:28 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

in the early '90's the yami was the elite compulsory vault. it is a beautiful vault. only for those with a great front handspring though.
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